
Oct 4, 2011
Transcript
[RADIOLAB INTRO]
ROBERT KRULWICH: So the—I guess our first question is, like, what—what conceivable set of circumstances led to you doing what you did?
KURT BRAUNOHLER: I just thought it would be a weird thing to do.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Yeah.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: Yeah. It's like, well, that would be weird. We don't know if it's funny, but we try it out. So ...
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Yeah. Is it going to be weird? We'll do it.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: Yeah. Is it going to alienate half the audience? Yeah.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: Let's do it.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Let's do it!
[ARCHIVE CLIP: audience cheers]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kristen Schall: Thank you so much.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: You are so ...]
JAD ABUMRAD: Okay. Wait, just to send things up.
ROBERT: I think you'd better.
JAD: Those two people that you just heard.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Kristen Schaal.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: And Kurt Braunohler.
JAD: They are comedians.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: He’s good.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: That's it.
JAD: And we first heard about the bit you're about to hear from Jesse Thorn.
JESSE THORN: Yes.
JAD: The host of The Sound of Young America.
JESSE THORN: Yes.
JAD: Great show.
JAD: Are you rolling over there, Jesse?
JESSE THORN: No, let me record you. Okay.
JESSE THORN: Checking my phone. Okay. Yeah, I'm rolling.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kristen Schaal: Thank you so much.]
ROBERT: So you set it up. When Kurt and Kristen walk on stage, what happened?
JESSE THORN: Well, there's a couple of jokes up top. You know, they joke about this TV show that they hosted in the '70s.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kristen Schaal: It was called Uncle Ben's Farmyard Courthouse.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: And it explained the American judicial system using a courthouse made completely of animals.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kristen Schaal: Yeah, it was canceled immediately.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Yeah, I think that was ...]
JESSE THORN: And so the audience is kind of laughing at the jokes, thinking like, "Oh, this is going to be a regular comedy sketch."
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kristen Schaal: So, we're going to do a sketch from it tonight.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: All right.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kristen Schaal: Okay?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Okay.]
JESSE THORN: And then they go into this song ...
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Oh, Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse. Oh, Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a, look at her dance like a horse. Oh, Kristen Schaal is a horse ...]
JESSE THORN: Kurt does this maniacal singing and clapping and Kristen is doing this horsey dance. [laughs]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Look at her dance like a horse. Oh, Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse. Oh ...]
JAD: He just keeps going.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse.]
ROBERT: How much longer can you do that for?
JAD: And, like, why?
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Repetition, Jad.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: I mean, like, when we do it, we, it's like, after the third repetition,
people are laughing. They get it like, oh, they're just gonna do that.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Over and over.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: And then somewhere around like, for, around the fourth time.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Then it's not, it's really not funny.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: It's really not funny.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Look at her dance like, look at her go like ...]
KRISTEN SCHAAL: The audience is quiet. They're like, I'm done with this.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: I'm done, I don't wanna watch this anymore.
JESSE THORN: Why are they still doing it? And then ...
KURT BRAUNOHLER: And then that changes to actual hatred. And they're like, you stupid people. You two stupid people. But somewhere between like, nine and eleven, then they—then they're like, "I like these stupid people!"
KRISTEN SCHAAL: They're so stupid. And then they're like, "Ah."
JESSE THORN: Then you get this next level, which is, they can't continue doing this. And then they do continue doing it ...
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse. Oh, Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a ...]
JESSE THORN: Like, they really—their eyes are starting to cross.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: By that point, I'm dripping sweat. Kristen's angry that I've gone that long.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: I'm just like [singing] looking at you, looking at you.
JESSE THORN: I mean, you can hear Kurt in that thing, like, losing track of the song
because he's going into some kind of fugue state.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Kurt Braunohler: Look at her dance, like a—look at her go like a—look at her dance like a horse!]
KURT BRAUNOHLER: I've had her on stage whisper, "Stop it!"
KRISTEN SCHAAL: Yeah. I'm up here working my ass off!
JESSE THORN: [laughing] This is maybe my favorite thing in the history of the world. What I love about it is that your brain is trying to make it into what you want it to be, which is a joke, but there is no joke happening. And so what these two people are doing is creating the expectation
that the expectation is going to be broken, but then breaking that expectation that the expectation is going to be broken by just delivering the thing that they've been delivering over and over for the past 10 minutes.
JAD: What's the longest you've taken it?
KRISTEN SCHAAL: 10 minutes in Australia, because you were drunk.
KURT BRAUNOHLER: Yeah, it seemed like—it seemed like 10 minutes. We can't be sure if it was 10 minutes. It seems like there's no way it's 10 minutes.
KRISTEN SCHAAL: I will tell you what, it was 10 minutes. And the audience went crazy.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Laguardia Arts High School singers: Kristen Schaal is a horse. Kristen Schaal is a horse. Look at her dance. Look at her go. Look at her dance like a horse.]
JAD: Hey, I'm Jad Abumrad.
ROBERT: I'm Robert Krulwich.
JAD: This is Radiolab, and today ...
ROBERT: Today it's all about ...
JAD: Loops.
ROBERT: Things that happen over ...
JAD: ... and over ...
ROBERT: ... and over ...
JAD: ... and over ...
ROBERT: ... and over ...
JAD: ... and over ...
ROBERT: ... and over ...
JAD: ... and over. Coming up. Loops that hurt you ...
ROBERT: Strange ...
JAD: ... loops that heal you ...
ROBERT: Dangerous loops ...
JAD: Loops that scare you ...
ROBERT: Loops.
JAD: ... and loops that eat you.
ROBERT: And loops that incomplete you.
JAD: What?
ROBERT: Shh.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Laguardia Arts High School singers: Kristen Schaal is a horse.]
ROBERT: So where—where are you guys? What—what ...
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: We're in San Francisco.
ROBERT: You're in San Francisco, so you're not in Texas.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: No, just sounds like we're in Texas.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah, she's from Texas, so ...
ROBERT: Oh.
JAD: Can you guys actually just, if you don't mind, introduce yourselves so we know—just, we have your name and all that.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Sure, I'm Mary Sue Campbell. I live in Novato, California. And my daughter, Christine, is ...
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: 30 years old, I live in San Francisco, and I was raised in Novato in the house that said this would happen, so ...
ROBERT: Shall we begin?
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Okay.
ROBERT: Tell me the beginning, how this story starts.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: From the beginning.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: I think I—I—it was odd, Christine actually called me Tuesday morning, about ten o'clock, and just said, "Oh, what are you doing, Mom?" And I said, "Oh, I'm just gonna go out in the yard and do some yard work and run some errands." And she said, "Well, you oughta do the yard work early because it's gonna be hot today."
JAD: So we're in the—we’re in the summertime.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: It was summertime, yeah. It was August. August 24, and apparently, what, 10 minutes later?
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: About half an hour later.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Half hour later, she said I called her.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: She had left me a voicemail, something like, "Hey, Christine, it's Mom, something is—something's not right, something's wrong, I need you to call me back." So I gave her a call back, and she said, "Something about the house isn't right, there's—things look weird in here." Well, what's weird, what are you talking about? And then she said, "Well, I'm looking at the calendar, and it says August 2010," and I'm like, "Uh-huh?" And she's like, "Well, that's not right." And I said, "Well, yes, it is. It's August 24, 2010." And as soon as I said that out loud, I grabbed my purse to leave. "Oh my God, she's had a stroke." That was my—my—my first reaction, and, oh, that makes me feel emotional. And so ...
ROBERT: Christine says she walked out of her house to the car, keeping her mom on the phone.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: "What else do you see?" I'm just trying to keep her talking to me.
ROBERT: All the while, her mom's telling her one thing after another just doesn't look right.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: She says there's a strange black truck on the driveway, which is the truck that belongs to her boyfriend that has been parked there for 10 years.
ROBERT: Whoa.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: So I'm, of course, increasingly—I mean, I'm just freaking out at this point.
ROBERT: So she hangs up with her mom and then calls the paramedics, and a half hour later, Christine arrives at the hospital.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: By the time I walked in, she had been there for five or ten minutes at the most, and as soon as I walked in, the doctor greeted me and said ...
JONATHAN VLAHOS: I said ...
ROBERT: This is her doctor, Jonathan Vlahos.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: Christine, it's immediately evident it's not a stroke, not an infection.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: That's—that's a huge relief.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: But I said ...
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Your mother has transient global amnesia.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: Transient global.
ROBERT: Transient global ...
JAD: How did those words hit you?
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: I'll be honest with you, I had no idea what that meant. I think the word I heard the most was 'amnesia.'
JONATHAN VLAHOS: Your mother has lost her ability to form new memories.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Means she can't remember.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: But ...
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: He said it's not going to last forever. It usually lasts between one and 24 hours, and we're not sure what causes it.
JAD: And it's at this point where the story goes from something kind of frightening to something a little more surreal.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah, so when I came in.
JAD: Her mother is sitting up in bed.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: She's a smiler. And she immediately started asking questions.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Okay, so what's the date?]
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: And I said, "Well, it's ...
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Tuesday, August 24.]
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: And of course, we have a video on YouTube of this.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: My birthday's already passed?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yep.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: I don’t even remember if I remember that? I'm trying to remember the last date I remember. I don't remember my birthday.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yeah. We hung out. You came over to my house,
and we watched a video that I made for you when I was in Texas. And all of your sisters and some of your brothers said happy birthday to you on the video. Yeah, but we still have the video so you can watch it again. But you're gonna remember eventually. They say it's just temporary.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Where was I? Was it at home?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: You were at home, yep. You were at home doing some gardening, and you called me and you were feeling confused. So you called the paramedics, had them come and get you, and then we came here and did a bunch of tests on you.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Okay, so what's the date?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: August 24. It's Tuesday.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: I'm trying to remember the last date I remember. I mean, I don't remember my birthday just recently.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: You don't remember your birthday, yeah.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Yeah, that must've just been recently.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yeah, a couple weeks ago.]
JAD: Now, you might've missed it, but this conversation they're having just started over.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Since August?]
JAD: Because every 90 seconds, Mary Sue's memory resets.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: August 24.]
JAD: But what's strange is the repetition. Like, we started that last clip you heard with her saying this.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: I'm trying to remember the last date I remember.]
JAD: 90 seconds later, after her memory resets, she says.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: I'm trying to remember the last date I remember.]
JAD: "90 seconds later."
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: I'm trying to remember the last date I remember.]
JAD: And as you watch this video for a few minutes, you realize what's happening here is that Mary Sue ...
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: You remember what day of the week it is?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: No.]
JAD: Is in a loop. And it goes like this. First, the date.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Okay, so what's the date?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: August 24.]
JONATHAN VLAHOS:She then responds in almost the same way every time.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: My birthday has already passed?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yep.]
JONATHAN VLAHOS:She's missed her birthday.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: It's already after my birthday.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yep.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Darn.]
JAD: And every time she says that, "Darn," in exactly the same way. If you fast forward ...
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: It's already past my birthday, though?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yep.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Oh, darn.]
JONATHAN VLAHOS: She must enjoy her birthday quite a bit.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: You're gonna remember it eventually.]
JAD: Then she laughs.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: What happened?]
JAD: Then they recap.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: You were working in the garden, and you gave me a call.]
JAD: Christine explains the whole thing, and it's usually when she says the word paramedics ...
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: So we called the paramedics.]
JAD: ... right there ...
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: And had them come and pick you up.]
JAD: ... that Mary Sue's eyes get really wide in this look of sheer utter disbelief.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Yes.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Isn't that creepy? I mean, every single time I watch this.
JAD: And you say that over and over.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah, I was just gonna say.
JAD: You say, "Isn't that creepy?"
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: This is creepy!]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: I know.]
JAD: 90 seconds later.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: It's so creepy.]
JAD: 90 seconds later.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: It's so creepy.]
JAD: And it's often at this point, right after "creepy", that she resets.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Okay, so I don't know what day of the week it is.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: It's Tuesday.]
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Like somebody put it on rewind.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: Over and over and over again.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Is it after my birthday?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yes.]
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: I'd repeated the birthday so much that the nurse apparently was behind me mouthing the words.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Oh, did I miss my birthday?
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Girl, it's like Groundhog's Day in here.]
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Yep, Groundhog's Day.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: This is like every two minutes. We're doing a loop.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: We ask the same thing again?
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yes, we do. We have had the same conversation over and over again every two minutes for the last two and a half hours.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Oh my gosh. Two and a half hours? Get out of here.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yes, I know.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Same thing?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Same thing.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Two and a half hours?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yeah, we can't seem to talk about anything else. That is what we're talking about today.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: What day of the week is it?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Tuesday, August 24. You didn't miss it. You were there.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Oh.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: Yeah.]
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Watching it, I wanted to slap me, you know? I wanted to reach out and slap me and say, "Damn it, I just told you that."
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: For the record, I would never slap my mother.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: No, she would not. No, she would not.
ROBERT: Okay, so our big question here is, clearly this is a person who's lost her memory,
but why would her behavior from one cycle to the next be so precisely and consistently the same? I mean, sometimes exactly the same.
JAD: Yeah, why?
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: I—I think what it is is one of the things the nurses said is that when you have something like this, your true self comes out.
ROBERT: Huh.
JAD: "Your true—" the word true is interesting.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah. Yeah.
JAD: So is that what we're seeing on the video, is that—your true person—your true self?
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Oh yeah, I mean, that's my mom through and through right there. I mean, she's ...
JAD: What Christine means is not the repetition, but that her mom keeps asking so many questions.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: She's inquisitive, she just wants to know what's going on with all—you know, across the board.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: I love problems, I love puzzles.
JAD: Are you like a Sudoku fiend?
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: You know, I am—I am—I hate to admit this.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Oh God.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: I play escape room games on the internet.
JAD: Escape room, what are those?
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: They're stupid little games where they have little hidden pixels that you find—you're stuck in a room and you have to get out. You've got to find the key to the door and there's all these little hidden places.
ROBERT: Oh, this is the perfect metaphor then.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Oh yeah.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Yeah. I was my own escape room.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: [laughs] Exactly.
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: Do you remember what day of the week it is?]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Christine Campbell: No.]
[ARCHIVE CLIP, Mary Sue Campbell: It’s Tuesday.]
JAD: But there's a different way of seeing this. First of all, Jonathan Vlahos, that ER doctor
who's seen a bunch of these cases, he said, well, that puzzler instinct, that's not just Mary Sue.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: What everybody does is struggle over and over again with where am I and when am I?
JAD: It's just a brain in survival mode. And another thing that everybody does, and he's seen about six of these patients so far, is that everybody, not just Mary Sue, but everybody becomes ...
JONATHAN VLAHOS: A broken record right down to the—the phrasing of the sentences.
JAD: Which creeps him out a little bit.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: It—it—you know, it makes the brain seem a little bit more like a machine. You know, you give the machine the exact same set of inputs.
JAD: Every 90 seconds, give it the same doctor, the same hospital room, same beeping machines.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: And see if the output ever varies. And ...
JAD: It doesn't.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: It almost seems like the patient has no free will.
JAD: And so sometimes, in the back of his head, he thinks, God, if I had that condition and someone videotaped me ...
JONATHAN VLAHOS: I would love to see—see my own tape.
ROBERT: Why?
JONATHAN VLAHOS: You know, I think I wanna see could I somehow escape the loop? Or would I—would I end up with the rest of us?
JAD: Now, thankfully, according to Jonathan, what normally happens in this condition is that as time goes on ...
JONATHAN VLAHOS: ... that 90 second loop ...
JAD: ... starts to slowly expand.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: It's actually more like two minutes or three minutes.
JAD: Eventually, four minutes.
JONATHAN VLAHOS: Now it's five minutes.
JAD: And for Mary Sue, after a few hours, as her loop got longer and longer, her old memories start to creep back in.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: By that evening, she was remembering up until, like, that Sunday.
JAD: A few hours later, her memory began to extend into Monday morning.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: And by the time we left the hospital, she remembered Monday night.
JAD: And then, finally ...
ROBERT: Shall we begin?
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Okay.
ROBERT: Tell me the begin—how the story starts.
CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: From the beginning.
MARY SUE CAMPBELL: Well, I think—it was odd, Christine actually called me Tuesday morning about ten o'clock and just said, "Oh, what are you doing, Mom?" And apparently, what, 10 minutes later, about half an hour later, she said I could, she said I could ...
ROBERT: I'm Robert Kruwich.
JAD: I'm Jad Abumrad.
ROBERT: And we'll be right back.
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[CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Hi, my name is Christine Campbell.]
[MARY SUE CAMPBELL: This is Mary Sue Campbell.]
[CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Here we go.]
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[CHRISTINE CAMPBELL: Thanks.]
[KURT BRAUNOHLER: Hope that was dumb enough for you.]
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