May 31, 2024
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LATIF: Okay, the reason we're here right now, I want to rerun a story from 2012 for you about an epic battle happening here on planet Earth. And depending on where you're listening to this, possibly even underneath your feet right now, because if you go solely by the numbers of individuals, this planet doesn't actually belong to the eight billion of us. The creature we're gonna talk about numbers not in the billions or even in the trillions, but in the quadrillions. That's the millions of billions. So arguably, this is their planet, and I can only presume from their perspective, we are the trivial insect. And now even though we reported this out over a decade ago, this battle is still raging right now all over this planet. The story begins with Jad and Robert on a suburban sidewalk in southern California.
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JAD ABUMRAD: Look, it's a gated community with electric gates. Electric gates.
JAD: Hey, I'm Jad Abumrad.
ROBERT KRULWICH: I'm Robert Krulwich.
JAD: This is Radiolab, the podcast. And today ...
JAD: It's nice out here!
ROBERT: We're on a road trip in Escondido, California.
JAD: Which is close to San Diego.
ROBERT: Regular suburban neighborhood.
JAD: Sprinklers. Lawns.
ROBERT: Nice houses.
JAD: Pretty ordinary. Except ...
JAD: This might be him. Do you think that's him?
ROBERT: For David Holway.
DAVID HOLWAY: Hey, how's it going?
ROBERT: Good, how are you?
ROBERT: David is an ecologist and an evolutionary biologist from UC-San Diego.
DAVID HOLWAY: So, yeah, you can just park.
ROBERT: And when we saw him, he was standing in the street.
JAD: Oh, he's got the things! He's got the things!
JAD: Holding what looked like some kind of ...
JAD: Nice!
JAD: ... hookah pipe. When we got out of the car, he walked us over to the side of the road near a driveway and pointed down.
DAVID HOLWAY: You can see Argentine ants in the—along the curb here.
JAD: There's a little guy. Yeah, that's an Argentine ant right there?
DAVID HOLWAY: That is the Argentine ant. So I'm just gonna collect some Argentine ants from the side of this—side of this sidewalk.
ROBERT: You are scraping the surface of the dirt with your fingers.
DAVID HOLWAY: There's a little nest here.
JAD: As soon as he scrapes, about a hundred ants just appear and start running in every direction.
DAVID HOLWAY: Yeah, so what we're seeing are just small numbers of workers that were probably in the leaf litter at the surface.
JAD: Doesn't seem so small, though. It looks like they're everywhere.
DAVID HOLWAY: No, this is tiny.
ROBERT: This is tiny? There's a lot of them!
JAD: First hundreds, then thousands of them here.
ROBERT: You're wrecking up their day! Look at you!
ROBERT: Now the reason the three of us grown adults are now squatting on this little patch of dirt in somebody's front lawn is because around 10 years ago, David and colleagues discovered that this very spot at this particular driveway ...
DAVID HOLWAY: Yeah, we're at 2211 Eucalyptus.
ROBERT: ... in front of this house.
JAD: Was the edge of a vast empire.
DAVID HOLWAY: Right about at this driveway.
JAD: And that empire ends right at that one driveway, 221 Eucalyptus.
ROBERT: To demonstrate this, David takes this hookah thing that he's carrying.
DAVID HOLWAY: So there's a tube that you suck on that connects to a vial.
JAD: He sticks the tube into the scrum ...
ROBERT: Sucks up a few ants ...
JAD: ... drops him into the vial.
JAD: Okay. You just put one—one.
DAVID HOLWAY: It's that one right there.
JAD: Okay.
ROBERT: And then he walked just to the other side of the driveway, like 17 steps, sucked up some ants on that side.
JAD: So here's a new—here is a new guy.
JAD: Plopped him into the same cup, and waited.
ROBERT: So far, nobody seems to ...
JAD: So you've got these ants from different sides of the driveway in the same cup. And at first, they don't seem to notice each other.
JAD: Okay, so we're watching. We're watching one guy, one—oh! Oh?
JAD: And then ...
ROBERT: Right away! Wow!
JAD: The two ants just lunge at each other.
ROBERT: Oh, my gosh!
JAD: They lock antenna, and soon they're in a ball.
ROBERT: This isn't good.
JAD: That is heavy duty fighting. They're like—they're seriously rolling around.
DAVID HOLWAY: One's got—looks like it's got a hold of the leg, and the other one's got a hold of the leg.
JAD: Look at them!
ROBERT: It's got its antenna ripped off.
DAVID HOLWAY: It's also missing a couple legs.
JAD: They got yanked off?
ROBERT: Look at the entire one side. Look at that. See, one side of his legs are missing. He's going around in circles because he has nowhere else to go.
DAVID HOLWAY: It's no holds barred.
JAD: Now here's the thing: what we saw in that cup between those two ants was a tiny version of what is happening all over the planet.
ROBERT: This one family of ants ...
JAD: The one on the left of the driveway, not the right.
ROBERT: Has fought its way, not only across huge hunks of America, they now control enormous swaths of the globe. And how they pulled this off? Well, that's maybe more frightening than the fact that they've done it.
JAD: Yeah.
LATIF: After the break, we learn about how exactly Argentine ants took over the world. Stick with us.
LATIF: Latif. Radiolab. Before the break, we learned about Argentine ants and their warlike brutality. But it turns out their secret to world domination isn't just that they'll fight indiscriminately to the death. They're also extremely loyal to their own kind, and it's a kind of loyalty that transcends physical distance and even time. And we'll get into all of that, but first ...
ROBERT: We have to go back to the mid 1800s, to a little place in the northeastern corner of Argentina.
NEIL TSUTSUI: That's right.
ROBERT: Have you ever been to this place?
NEIL TSUTSUI: Oh, yeah. Yeah, we've been there several times.
ROBERT: Oh, you have? Oh!
NEIL TSUTSUI: Actually, on the first ...
ROBERT: That's Neil Tsutsui. He's an evolutionary biologist, and says if you're an ant, this place is kind of special.
JAD: Meaning hellish.
ROBERT: Because it's a place where two rivers come together.
NEIL TSUTSUI: Yeah, it's this region in the floodplain between the Rio Parana and the Rio Uruguay.
JAD: A lot of different kinds of ants live there in this little spot. And he says when it rains—which it does there all the time ...
NEIL TSUTSUI: The floodwaters rise, and everybody's home gets flooded and you have to flee.
MARK MOFFETT: The ants are forced up into the trees or any high ground.
ROBERT: That's ecologist Mark Moffett.
MARK MOFFETT: And then as the water falls, all these different subgroups meet again, and they have to start battling from scratch.
ROBERT: That's my land!
JAD: My land!
ROBERT: My land!
JAD: My land! Mine!
MARK MOFFETT: They battle relentlessly ...
JAD: Because this place is always flooding.
MARK MOFFETT: And over time, eons of this, they simply, simply do not know how to stop killing each other.
ROBERT: So you've got this breeding ground for incredibly nasty ants there in northern Argentina. All these different groups.
JAD: All fighting and fighting, and more or less keeping each other in line.
ROBERT: But one day in the 1800s, a steamship rolls up to, say, Buenos Aires, which is a big port at the mouth of these two rivers.
MARK MOFFETT: A boat pulls up, a ramp comes down, and ...
ROBERT: Somehow a couple of ants from one of those Argentine ant families ...
MARK MOFFETT: Are up the gangplank, probably, you know, within the first hour.
ROBERT: Because they're always fleeing floods, so they're programmed to move. That's what they do.
MARK MOFFETT: They're moving into the coffee bags. You can imagine they're moving into all kinds of things.
ROBERT: And then the boat pulls out, and this family of ants leaves their war-torn hellhole of a homeland behind. Until eventually ...
MARK MOFFETT: Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. 1891 is the first time they were seen there.
ROBERT: ... they show up in New Orleans.
MARK MOFFETT: New Orleans. And then 1907, they leapfrog all the way to California. They were simultaneously found in San Francisco and Los Angeles, I believe.
JAD: How did they get to California?
MARK MOFFETT: Well, the Panama Canal wasn't open yet, so it seems likely they took the train.
ROBERT: Wow!
ROBERT: Now, here's the thing about these ants that make them different from all the other ants: because they grew up in this crazy, bloodsoaked floodplain of death ...
JAD: Their survival strategy was pretty simple: kill everything. If it's not one of us, kill it. No matter what.
ROBERT: Other ants will have occasional sex with other ant groups, capture them and make them into slaves, adopt their children. These ants?
MARK MOFFETT: These ants don't fool around.
JAD: They don't have sex outside the group, they never take slaves. And if they catch your babies?
ROBERT: They eat them.
JAD: And it turns out there's a side benefit to being a cruel, segregationist, violent bastard, because being that way allows these ants to stay pure.
ROBERT: Genes stay the same. They're genetically pure.
JAD: Yeah, genetically pure. And when they stay genetically pure, they can stay unified as a group. And when they do that, they can spread in ways the other ants just can't. Because see, ants use smell. Like, that's how they know who's in and who's out. First thing they do when they meet another ant is they sniff them using their antennae.
NEIL TSUTSUI: Something sort of like a tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff.
MARK MOFFETT: They register odor. It's a parallel to the nationality in humans. As long as they sense that identity throughout the individuals they meet, they are happy.
JAD: Now with most ants, as they spread over vast distances, they start to commingle with other ants. Queens come and go, and inevitably that smell nationality dilutes. It begins to change.
ROBERT: But with these Argentine ants, the smell doesn't change from queen to queen or from nest to nest. Even if they go way off, conquer totally new territory, build distant nests ...
NEIL TSUTSUI: All these different nests function as sort of a fluid network. They can fuse and fission through time. For example, you might be nesting on the edge of a sidewalk, and the sprinklers come on. Everybody evacuates, and all the queens and workers and babies get moved to higher ground and may fuse with a nest that's already existing at the higher ground.
ROBERT: So all these Argentine ants living across the south in the US, they get along.
JAD: And if you don't have to worry about each other and you've killed off everything else ...
NEIL TSUTSUI: They can focus their energy on producing more Argentine ants.
MARK MOFFETT: And all you have to do is outnumber the enemy enough and you can wipe out anything.
ROBERT: Even an animal 5,000 times their size.
MARK MOFFETT: Horned lizards are dropping in abundance out in California because the ants simply run all over them and they can never sleep. These lizards normally eat ants, but they simply can't grab these ants. They're too fast and too small, and so they're literally being killed by their own food.
ROBERT: Hmm.
ROBERT: To sum up, they're very nasty, very loyal, and they're extraordinarily numerous. Put those three things together and what you get is Genghis Khan in an ant.
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ROBERT: During the 1950s, this tight-knit, brutal family of ants starts to spread deeper into California.
JAD: Thanks in large part to all the new freeways, because now they could spread faster and farther. Like, say you ...
NEIL TSUTSUI: Put out a potted plant on your front porch.
JAD: The ants move in.
NEIL TSUTSUI: Overnight.
JAD: Next day ...
NEIL TSUTSUI: Pick up that plant and move it, you know, a hundred miles away the next day.
JAD: And there they are in this new place that's so far away from where they were yesterday, and they can conquer that.
ROBERT: And not only that, it is, after all, the 1950s and 1960s, and you got suburbs springing up all over America.
JAD: Lots of lawns, lots of sprinklers that go on, off, on, off, on, off, which, if you're an ant, is ...
NEIL TSUTSUI: In many ways very similar to home—fresh terrain that's been exposed by the receding floodwaters. Humans have modified the habitat in California in ways that Argentine ants really like.
ROBERT: So the Argentine ants are happy.
JAD: And most people don't even notice this is happening.
ROBERT: Until we get to the 1990s. In fact in 1998, Neil, our entomologist friend, and his colleague, Andy Suarez, they're now studying Argentine ants around San Diego. And they begin to wonder, how far can a family like this of ants spread and still remain pure and still remain loyal to each other? So in the summer of that year, Neil and Andy hop into a car and they go on a little road trip, starting in San Diego and heading north. They took a cup full of Argentine ants from San Diego, and periodically they would stop, get out of the car, kneel down with their ant hookah pipes and suck up local ants—whoever happened to be there—and then pop those ants into the cup with the San Diego ant. Now if the ants think they're part of the same colony, they won't fight.
NEIL TSUTSUI: That's right. So we put in ants from Los Angeles, tap, tap, tap, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff. And they recognize San Diego ants as being members of the same colony.
ROBERT: So they know the colony extends at least from San Diego to Los Angeles, but they keep going.
NEIL TSUTSUI: We go up to Santa Barbara. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. No aggression. Sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff. Nothing.
ROBERT: No fighting.
NEIL TSUTSUI: To San Luis Obispo. Same thing. Sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff. They think they're all members of the same colony.
ROBERT: Still no fighting.
NEIL TSUTSUI: Up to San Francisco. Tap, tap, tap, tap. Same thing. Sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff. And this continued.
ROBERT: All the way to a little town a hundred miles north of San Francisco.
NEIL TSUTSUI: And that site displayed no aggression towards the ants that we collected at the very beginning of our road trip from over 600 miles away in San Diego.
JAD: Just think about that for a second, okay? Remember those ant hills you might have had in your front lawn? Little mounds. Imagine one of those 600 miles wide, give or take, with trillions and trillions of ants in it.
ROBERT: Scientists call this a supercolony.
NEIL TSUTSUI: The large California supercolony.
JAD: And as scientists kept tracking this colony, they realized ...
ROBERT: These ants had hitchhiked far beyond California.
MELISSA THOMAS: They're all over Europe. Europe's got—actually, Europe's got the largest colony known.
ROBERT: That's Australian ant scientist Melissa Thomas.
MELISSA THOMAS: Yes.
ROBERT: In 2002, she worked with David Holway to chart just how far this one super colony has expanded.
MELISSA THOMAS: Australia has some.
ROBERT: Where you are?
MELISSA THOMAS: We've got some here in Perth. Yes. And over in Melbourne and Sydney area.
ROBERT: Up and down Spain, all around Italy. Around Greece.
NEIL TSUTSUI: Japan. Many Atlantic and Pacific islands.
ROBERT: Hawaii.
NEIL TSUTSUI: Easter Island, places like that.
MARK MOFFETT: They've taken over much of northern New Zealand. They've taken over parts of South Africa.
ROBERT: All these places are occupied by the same family of—are they the same colony?
NEIL TSUTSUI: They think they're all members of the same colony. In fact, we imported Argentine ants from Japan, Hawaii, Australia, New Zealand, Europe. Brought them to UC-Berkeley.
JAD: And they put all of these ants from all these different places in the same cup.
NEIL TSUTSUI: Like we did on our road trip. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff.
ROBERT: And no fighting! You've got, say, an ant from Okinawa in Japan and an ant from Genoa in Italy. They're 6,000 miles distant, maybe 150 generations apart.
JAD: And yet they still know each other.
NEIL TSUTSUI: They still recognize each other as members of the same colony.
JAD: Because the smell that bonds them together hasn't changed.
NEIL TSUTSUI: At some point in the past, you know, one colony in Argentina got picked up and moved around and spread and continued to spread and continued to spread. The descendants of those ants we have now across all continents except Antarctica, they still think they're all members of the same family.
JAD: So here you've got this monoculture, right?
ROBERT: Mm-hmm.
JAD: That's really violent, on the edge.
ROBERT: On the edges. Yeah.
JAD: But then if you're on the inside and part of the group, very, very peaceful.
ROBERT: And since there's only one other creature that can do this, that can create an allegiance across vast, vast spreads of Earth, I couldn't help but ask Neil ...
ROBERT: Do you ever analogize to human history when you look at these things?
NEIL TSUTSUI: It's tempting to, but I try not to. Because these sorts of situations are kind of a Rorschach. You can see whatever you want to in them.
ROBERT: Yeah.
NEIL TSUTSUI: And so, you know, for our Argentine ant research, we've had people say, "Look, the lesson from this is that we should all be like Argentine ants and get along and cooperate and we'll succeed." But then on the other hand, I've had white supremacist websites cite my research and say this is evidence that the key to success is not mixing the races.
ROBERT: Hmm.
ROBERT: The unsettling part is that, at least in efficacy, like, they're right. This has been a very successful formula for these ants.
JAD: Well, if it lasts.
ROBERT: Right. Which brings us to ...
JILL SHANAHAN: Jill.
ROBERT: What's your whole big name?
JILL SHANAHAN: Jill Shanahan.
ROBERT: Jill Shanahan.
ROBERT: In 1995, Jill was working with Andy Suarez in San Diego, helping him map the ant empire. And one day, as part of her job, she found herself in ...
JILL SHANAHAN: A park in a housing complex.
ROBERT: Just outside San Diego looking for Argentine ants.
JILL SHANAHAN: Mm hmm.
ROBERT: So do you find some?
JILL SHANAHAN: Yeah, I believe that there was a colony at the base of a tree.
ROBERT: Now before she left, she grabbed some Argentine ants from the lab. And these tree ants, they looked exactly the same as her lab ants.
JILL SHANAHAN: They're pretty easy to identify.
ROBERT: And she figured they would just meet the new ants and go sniff, sniff, sniff, get along.
JILL SHANAHAN: That, or ignore each other.
ROBERT: But when she plopped one of these tree ants into the cup with one of her lab ants ...
JILL SHANAHAN: These guys were fighting. One was more aggressive than the other and started biting the other one. And then they'd grapple each other and get into a tight little ball and just ...
ROBERT: And you're watching this.
JILL SHANAHAN: Mm-hmm.
ROBERT: And no one has ever seen Argentine ants fight before. You're seeing something nobody's seen before. Did you have any sense that that was happening?
JILL SHANAHAN: No, I guess not. [laughs]
ROBERT: [laughs]
ROBERT: Which may explain why Jill is now in the interior design field. But this is a big deal!
JAD: Because what it means is that another family of Argentine ants had made it over from the old country and brought that old fight to America. So scientists like Melissa began to wonder: how big is this new empire? And where do the two meet?
MELISSA THOMAS: Exactly. Our goal was to find where that territory met in nature.
ROBERT: So Melissa heads out with her standard ant gear: the hookah pipe thing to suck up the ants, the fight cup to plop them into.
MELISSA THOMAS: Right.
ROBERT: She'd do the fight cup test in all these different places in the area, trying to zero in on where that border might be.
MELISSA THOMAS: I'd slowly sort of get closer and closer and closer.
JAD: And eventually, she finds herself walking down a street in a normal subdivision in Escondido. She looks down and she sees it: this thick channel of death.
MELISSA THOMAS: Dead bodies. Hundreds, hundreds of thousands. Hundreds of thousands of dead bodies.
JAD: And from all directions, live ants were ...
MELISSA THOMAS: Pouring into this area and fighting to the death. Masses and masses of them fighting.
MARK MOFFETT: Piles and piles of them killing each other.
MELISSA THOMAS: It's pretty extraordinary to see, actually.
DAVID HOLWAY: There were times when we didn't even need to get out of the car to find the supercolony boundary because you'd see the dead workers spilling over the curb.
ROBERT: No!
JAD: Spilling?
DAVID HOLWAY: Spilling.
JAD: Which brings us back to where we started with that driveway and David Holway.
ROBERT: Oh, my God!
JAD: Oh, my God. They're just like, almost bouncing off the bottom.
ROBERT: This, then, is the price of empire. These ants have conquered a huge portion of the globe, but every day they pay the price in bodies at the border.
ROBERT: Like, this guy has lost all—you see, he's only got limbs on one side now.
JAD: And that price might be going up, because scientists have now figured out that several more families of Argentine ants have hitchhiked their way over.
JAD: Yeah. This is that—this is what I expected.
ROBERT: Are they gonna die?
DAVID HOLWAY: Yeah, the ones that are really injured probably won't live too much longer.
JAD: Oh my God, those two!
JAD: So in the end, this strategy of violence and intolerance seems to be pretty good until it meets itself.
ROBERT: Or even worse, something badder than itself.
JAD: Oh my God, those two. When you shook the ...
ROBERT: Oh, look, they got free! Oh, but the other one. Oh, he's just throwing into another fight. Oh, look, look, they're going into a circle. Oh, they're in the ball of death. Well, not quite. They've just separated.
JAD: They sort of locked ...
ROBERT: Big thanks to Douglas Smith for production help on this piece.
JAD: Douglas, I'm Jad Abumrad.
ROBERT: I'm Robert Krulwich.
JAD: Thanks for listening.
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